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		<title>Comment on The Things of This World &#8211; a testimony about addiction by Allison Musick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allison Musick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 21:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i just gave up fb/gaming on Sunday.  i feel incredibly free and closer to God, even though it&#039;s a little nerve-racking to let go of something like that.  i also feel more fully involved in my life now.  :-D  i was going to write a longer comment but i&#039;m actually on the way out the door (read: getting the heck off the computer) to take Olivia for a bike ride!  her new baby bike helmet just got here today!  yay for freedom from the things that entrap us!  Don&#039;t look for me on facebook bc I won&#039;t be there!  ;-)  ~Allison from RCV  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i just gave up fb/gaming on Sunday.  i feel incredibly free and closer to God, even though it&#8217;s a little nerve-racking to let go of something like that.  i also feel more fully involved in my life now.  :-D  i was going to write a longer comment but i&#8217;m actually on the way out the door (read: getting the heck off the computer) to take Olivia for a bike ride!  her new baby bike helmet just got here today!  yay for freedom from the things that entrap us!  Don&#8217;t look for me on facebook bc I won&#8217;t be there!  ;-)  ~Allison from RCV  :)</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Things of This World &#8211; a testimony about addiction by Hannah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hannah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2011 02:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the concluding &quot;It&#039;s worth it, every time.&quot; That went in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the concluding &#8220;It&#8217;s worth it, every time.&#8221; That went in.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Things of This World &#8211; a testimony about addiction by Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Dec 2010 19:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Eric, that was good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Eric, that was good.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Word and The Spirit by Jeff Milam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Milam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Dec 2010 21:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post. You write well. I grew grew up in a church that is Southern Baptist, so I definitely have a &quot;Word&quot; church background. Becky (my wife) was a part of an Assembly of God church, so she has a &quot;Spirit&quot; church background. I&#039;ve seen the silliness and/or lifelessness that comes from these camps. From my experience, since both these groups of churches are so one-sided, I&#039;ve rarely seen any lasting fruit or any kind of shared life among either of them. Your post was a reminder to me that I should be thankful for my community, where we are guided by both the Bible and the Spirit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post. You write well. I grew grew up in a church that is Southern Baptist, so I definitely have a &#8220;Word&#8221; church background. Becky (my wife) was a part of an Assembly of God church, so she has a &#8220;Spirit&#8221; church background. I&#8217;ve seen the silliness and/or lifelessness that comes from these camps. From my experience, since both these groups of churches are so one-sided, I&#8217;ve rarely seen any lasting fruit or any kind of shared life among either of them. Your post was a reminder to me that I should be thankful for my community, where we are guided by both the Bible and the Spirit.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Some Thoughts on the Gifts of the Spirit by Some Thoughts on the Gifts of the Spirit &#124; Loving the Church</title>
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		<dc:creator>Some Thoughts on the Gifts of the Spirit &#124; Loving the Church</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2010 20:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] (originally posted here by Eric Henderson &#8211; http://www.fraggedformysins.com/2010/11/some-thoughts-on-the-gifts-of-the-spirit/) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] (originally posted here by Eric Henderson &#8211; <a href="http://www.fraggedformysins.com/2010/11/some-thoughts-on-the-gifts-of-the-spirit/)" rel="nofollow">http://www.fraggedformysins.com/2010/11/some-thoughts-on-the-gifts-of-the-spirit/)</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Some Thoughts on the Gifts of the Spirit by Channah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Channah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 07:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric - like Shammah you manage to put things &quot;just right.&quot;  I&#039;m not sure how difficult it is for you to write a blog but please continue to put forth every effort as you might be a mouth piece for the Body -- and the visual I have of the body w/o a mouth piece...well, did you ever see Matrix?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric &#8211; like Shammah you manage to put things &#8220;just right.&#8221;  I&#8217;m not sure how difficult it is for you to write a blog but please continue to put forth every effort as you might be a mouth piece for the Body &#8212; and the visual I have of the body w/o a mouth piece&#8230;well, did you ever see Matrix?!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Some Thoughts on the Gifts of the Spirit by Ada</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Nov 2010 15:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great thoughts man. I totally agree, more vigorous and more appreciation for what God is doing in a variety of ways. Thanks for your honestly as well, it encourages me as I often struggle with faith in some of the things like the blog you are talking about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great thoughts man. I totally agree, more vigorous and more appreciation for what God is doing in a variety of ways. Thanks for your honestly as well, it encourages me as I often struggle with faith in some of the things like the blog you are talking about.</p>
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		<title>Comment on God doesn&#8217;t care about your church. by Pamela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pamela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 07:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>very well said. i completely agree. and am in that place of being involved again in a &quot;traditional big mega church&quot; and still trying to hold onto these principles that i have learned the last 6 years or so....its a struggle. but i think you said it well at the beginning when you said its all about God caring about people. so, that&#039;s my focus right now. no matter the structure and all the things that will &quot;burn&quot;, i won&#039;t make arguments and complain and fuss to change all of it, but i will set an example by focusing on people, on relationships, on pushing everyone around me to a deeper level in life with Christ.

btw, i&#039;m super excited about this new &quot;turn&quot; in your (our) church :) i feel i am at the same place as well, turning to an outward focus. i think my heart is still sown with all of yours!!  and i read a really great article on ministry and this outward focus and i loved something he said: 

&quot;Ministry is not something that you do. Ministry is something that you have to trust. If you know you are the beloved, and if you keep forgiving those with whom you form community and celebrate their gifts, you cannot do other than minister.  Jesus cured people not by doing all sorts of complicated things. A power went out from him, and everyone was cured. He didn&#039;t say &#039;Let me talk to you for ten minutes, and maybe I can do something about this.&#039; Everyone who touched him was cured, because a power went out from his pure heart.  He wanted one thing--to do the will of God.  He was the completely obedient one, the one who was always listening to God. Out of this listening came an intimacy with God that radiated out to everyone Jesus saw and touched.

Ministry means you have to trust that. You have to trust that if you are the son and daughter of God, power will go out from you and that people will be healed.&quot;

He goes on to describe what he means by healing (not in the literally way we think of it sometimes).   He says that ministry or outreach is in two words: gratitude and compassion.  Basically, when people are hurting in any way at all, its helping them turn everything into gratitude towards God (instead of anger, resentment, etc) and them lavishing compassion on their hurt hearts and souls, suffering with the suffering, weeping with the ones weeping. And this in turn is people feeling the power of God, experiencing Him through us...&quot;touching our garments to be healed.&quot;

This really challenge my &quot;typical&quot; thinking of outward outreach ministry..and i thought it would be challenging to your (our) church there as well :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very well said. i completely agree. and am in that place of being involved again in a &#8220;traditional big mega church&#8221; and still trying to hold onto these principles that i have learned the last 6 years or so&#8230;.its a struggle. but i think you said it well at the beginning when you said its all about God caring about people. so, that&#8217;s my focus right now. no matter the structure and all the things that will &#8220;burn&#8221;, i won&#8217;t make arguments and complain and fuss to change all of it, but i will set an example by focusing on people, on relationships, on pushing everyone around me to a deeper level in life with Christ.</p>
<p>btw, i&#8217;m super excited about this new &#8220;turn&#8221; in your (our) church :) i feel i am at the same place as well, turning to an outward focus. i think my heart is still sown with all of yours!!  and i read a really great article on ministry and this outward focus and i loved something he said: </p>
<p>&#8220;Ministry is not something that you do. Ministry is something that you have to trust. If you know you are the beloved, and if you keep forgiving those with whom you form community and celebrate their gifts, you cannot do other than minister.  Jesus cured people not by doing all sorts of complicated things. A power went out from him, and everyone was cured. He didn&#8217;t say &#8216;Let me talk to you for ten minutes, and maybe I can do something about this.&#8217; Everyone who touched him was cured, because a power went out from his pure heart.  He wanted one thing&#8211;to do the will of God.  He was the completely obedient one, the one who was always listening to God. Out of this listening came an intimacy with God that radiated out to everyone Jesus saw and touched.</p>
<p>Ministry means you have to trust that. You have to trust that if you are the son and daughter of God, power will go out from you and that people will be healed.&#8221;</p>
<p>He goes on to describe what he means by healing (not in the literally way we think of it sometimes).   He says that ministry or outreach is in two words: gratitude and compassion.  Basically, when people are hurting in any way at all, its helping them turn everything into gratitude towards God (instead of anger, resentment, etc) and them lavishing compassion on their hurt hearts and souls, suffering with the suffering, weeping with the ones weeping. And this in turn is people feeling the power of God, experiencing Him through us&#8230;&#8221;touching our garments to be healed.&#8221;</p>
<p>This really challenge my &#8220;typical&#8221; thinking of outward outreach ministry..and i thought it would be challenging to your (our) church there as well :)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Some Thoughts on Mannatech and/or Glyconutrients by Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for sharing, everyone.  I especially appreciate your comment, Kyle.

I hadn&#039;t looked thoroughly at mannatechscience.org in a while, but I took some time to check it out today, and look at the published studies.  There was definitely more than I expected, and I read all of the abstracts for ones that were published to the site.

A few observations:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mannatechscience.org/files/wang1.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Effects of a carbohydrate supplement upon resting brain activity&lt;/a&gt; - I&#039;m fairly sure what this says is... sugar (specifically, glucose) gives you a sugar rush in your brain.  I think I&#039;ve proved this one adequately with my own research of glucose :p.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mannatechscience.org/files/wang2.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Effects of a Glyconutritional Supplement on Brain Potentials Associated with Language Processing&lt;/a&gt; - This one is clearly a bit more complex.  While explaining alot more thoroughly, and using pretty graphs, it again seems to state that sugar makes your head work faster, specifically as far as reaction times go.  Take-away quote from conclusion: &quot;Although treatment-related reaction times were in the predicted direction, i.e., reduced in the supplement relative to the placebo condition, these differences were not statistically significant.&quot;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mannatechscience.org/files/boyd.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;An Open-Label Pilot Study of the Antioxidant Effect in Healthy People of Ambrotose AO™&lt;/a&gt; - Summary - a supplement with anti-oxidants (in this case, Ambrotose AO), results in higher levels of anti-oxidants in test subjects.  Makes sense, and seems to be what I or anyone else would expect.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mannatechscience.org/files/sinnott1.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Human Colonic Bacteria Can Utilize Stabilized Aloe Vera Gel Polysaccharides and a Mixed Saccharide-Based Glyconutritional Dietary Supplement, Advanced Ambrotose&lt;/a&gt; - Not gonna lie, not exactly sure what&#039;s being tested, and what difference it makes.  As far as I can tell, It basically says the colon can use aloe vera and the elements of Ambrotose.  Seems to be a promising study if what those effects are can be measured.  Seems to be a study that would be a starting point for more advanced studies, yet to come.

That&#039;s enough for now, the other studies are either about basic components that exist in Ambrotose, or completely unrelated products.  Not saying they aren&#039;t important, just that they aren&#039;t relevant to the issues at hand, at least in my mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing, everyone.  I especially appreciate your comment, Kyle.</p>
<p>I hadn&#8217;t looked thoroughly at mannatechscience.org in a while, but I took some time to check it out today, and look at the published studies.  There was definitely more than I expected, and I read all of the abstracts for ones that were published to the site.</p>
<p>A few observations:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mannatechscience.org/files/wang1.pdf" rel="nofollow">Effects of a carbohydrate supplement upon resting brain activity</a> &#8211; I&#8217;m fairly sure what this says is&#8230; sugar (specifically, glucose) gives you a sugar rush in your brain.  I think I&#8217;ve proved this one adequately with my own research of glucose :p.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mannatechscience.org/files/wang2.pdf" rel="nofollow">Effects of a Glyconutritional Supplement on Brain Potentials Associated with Language Processing</a> &#8211; This one is clearly a bit more complex.  While explaining alot more thoroughly, and using pretty graphs, it again seems to state that sugar makes your head work faster, specifically as far as reaction times go.  Take-away quote from conclusion: &#8220;Although treatment-related reaction times were in the predicted direction, i.e., reduced in the supplement relative to the placebo condition, these differences were not statistically significant.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mannatechscience.org/files/boyd.pdf" rel="nofollow">An Open-Label Pilot Study of the Antioxidant Effect in Healthy People of Ambrotose AO™</a> &#8211; Summary &#8211; a supplement with anti-oxidants (in this case, Ambrotose AO), results in higher levels of anti-oxidants in test subjects.  Makes sense, and seems to be what I or anyone else would expect.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mannatechscience.org/files/sinnott1.pdf" rel="nofollow">Human Colonic Bacteria Can Utilize Stabilized Aloe Vera Gel Polysaccharides and a Mixed Saccharide-Based Glyconutritional Dietary Supplement, Advanced Ambrotose</a> &#8211; Not gonna lie, not exactly sure what&#8217;s being tested, and what difference it makes.  As far as I can tell, It basically says the colon can use aloe vera and the elements of Ambrotose.  Seems to be a promising study if what those effects are can be measured.  Seems to be a study that would be a starting point for more advanced studies, yet to come.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s enough for now, the other studies are either about basic components that exist in Ambrotose, or completely unrelated products.  Not saying they aren&#8217;t important, just that they aren&#8217;t relevant to the issues at hand, at least in my mind.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Some Thoughts on Mannatech and/or Glyconutrients by PS26</title>
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		<dc:creator>PS26</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 07:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks...i really appreciate all the information. i&#039;ve heard a lot in the past from different people on this, but no real information, so its good to hear the information in such a factual way.  i have to agree on a couple of points that should be huge red flags.  

1) The leadership....if the main guy has had one mistake, ok, but if he&#039;s had 2 businesses that were fraudulent, sorry, no more credibility...ever. Seriously the leadership says everything about the business. If the guy can&#039;t be an honest businessman, he should go work for a business that is already honest and be forced to learn himself...not run a multi-million dollar business.  I wish we could have &quot;business jail&quot; where people can&#039;t open up businesses again if they have been fraudulent in the past. Honest business is not that hard and its what people deserve.

2) Market schemes...even if they are not emphasizing the selling point (props to them for downplaying something that people have already caught on to and realize its dishonest nature)...this is even better marketing and an even better scheme. One step lower.  Hate it. Don&#039;t approve of it. Sell your product like everyone else...in stores. If you truly believe in it...you will want to get it out to as many people as possible...and stores is the best way. If it really cures diseases...the business should want to get it to everyone and one-by-one marketing is not to the masses...but its a selling method...its about the money, not the product.

So, that&#039;s my opinion for businesses in general...and this one seems to fit it.  I encourage everyone to stay away from wasting their money on these things. However, I do believe in eating healthily, well, staying away from pesticides foods and preservatives and all the other nutrition stuff that&#039;s really much harder than taking the pills.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks&#8230;i really appreciate all the information. i&#8217;ve heard a lot in the past from different people on this, but no real information, so its good to hear the information in such a factual way.  i have to agree on a couple of points that should be huge red flags.  </p>
<p>1) The leadership&#8230;.if the main guy has had one mistake, ok, but if he&#8217;s had 2 businesses that were fraudulent, sorry, no more credibility&#8230;ever. Seriously the leadership says everything about the business. If the guy can&#8217;t be an honest businessman, he should go work for a business that is already honest and be forced to learn himself&#8230;not run a multi-million dollar business.  I wish we could have &#8220;business jail&#8221; where people can&#8217;t open up businesses again if they have been fraudulent in the past. Honest business is not that hard and its what people deserve.</p>
<p>2) Market schemes&#8230;even if they are not emphasizing the selling point (props to them for downplaying something that people have already caught on to and realize its dishonest nature)&#8230;this is even better marketing and an even better scheme. One step lower.  Hate it. Don&#8217;t approve of it. Sell your product like everyone else&#8230;in stores. If you truly believe in it&#8230;you will want to get it out to as many people as possible&#8230;and stores is the best way. If it really cures diseases&#8230;the business should want to get it to everyone and one-by-one marketing is not to the masses&#8230;but its a selling method&#8230;its about the money, not the product.</p>
<p>So, that&#8217;s my opinion for businesses in general&#8230;and this one seems to fit it.  I encourage everyone to stay away from wasting their money on these things. However, I do believe in eating healthily, well, staying away from pesticides foods and preservatives and all the other nutrition stuff that&#8217;s really much harder than taking the pills.</p>
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