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		<title>Comment on My Struggle With Adoption, Havin my Own, and Zeal by 1855</title>
		<link>http://www.fraggedformysins.com/2008/10/19/my-struggle-with-adoption-havin-my-own-and-zeal/#comment-35110</link>
		<dc:creator>1855</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 14:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well, I came across your site through a mutual friend, and thought I would share my experience and thoughts on your struggle, because it is very close to my heart.

First, let me say that my wife and I adopted a little boy a few years ago now. It has been the greatest ride in our life thus far. Our decision for adoption was fairly easy. I can not have biological children, so we went with adoption. We briefly looked into some scientific/medical procedures that could accomplish a "biological" child for us, but it was never considered a serious option because of the same issues you raise...their are children that need to be loved in this world that do not have a home, and by God's love, we have a home. Let's share it.

And this brings me to what I want to share with you: 

I believe we put way too much thought into it. Science has corrupted so much of our thoughts on the miracle of birth, that we act as if it is all in our hands. Between birth control and test tubes, we feel as if we are in complete control and our prayers will help us decide what God wants us to do. Really?! After you spend years manipulating the situation to prevent child birth, and then spend thousands of dollars on test tubes and eggs, you think God really takes you seriously when you say His Will be done?

And trust me when I say this...I do not mean to be rude on this subject. We did the birth control for the first years of our marriage. We were not "ready" for children. And then we spent 2 years trying to get pregnant and asking God why this was not happening. When we found out that I could not have children, I just laughed. (my wife did not. she cried. that's a whole different subject). We thought we were so smart. We thought we were in control. We were such shmucks. But then, once we knew the situation, the prayers became simple. Adoption. 

So my advice for you is this. If you really want to know what God wants for your family, stop intervening with science. pray. talk about it with each other. adopt. give birth. God will let you know what He wants for you if you step back and stop trying to control the situation.

I hope this helps. Either way, children will rock your world. Get ready to laugh and cry a LOT!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, I came across your site through a mutual friend, and thought I would share my experience and thoughts on your struggle, because it is very close to my heart.</p>
<p>First, let me say that my wife and I adopted a little boy a few years ago now. It has been the greatest ride in our life thus far. Our decision for adoption was fairly easy. I can not have biological children, so we went with adoption. We briefly looked into some scientific/medical procedures that could accomplish a &#8220;biological&#8221; child for us, but it was never considered a serious option because of the same issues you raise&#8230;their are children that need to be loved in this world that do not have a home, and by God&#8217;s love, we have a home. Let&#8217;s share it.</p>
<p>And this brings me to what I want to share with you: </p>
<p>I believe we put way too much thought into it. Science has corrupted so much of our thoughts on the miracle of birth, that we act as if it is all in our hands. Between birth control and test tubes, we feel as if we are in complete control and our prayers will help us decide what God wants us to do. Really?! After you spend years manipulating the situation to prevent child birth, and then spend thousands of dollars on test tubes and eggs, you think God really takes you seriously when you say His Will be done?</p>
<p>And trust me when I say this&#8230;I do not mean to be rude on this subject. We did the birth control for the first years of our marriage. We were not &#8220;ready&#8221; for children. And then we spent 2 years trying to get pregnant and asking God why this was not happening. When we found out that I could not have children, I just laughed. (my wife did not. she cried. that&#8217;s a whole different subject). We thought we were so smart. We thought we were in control. We were such shmucks. But then, once we knew the situation, the prayers became simple. Adoption. </p>
<p>So my advice for you is this. If you really want to know what God wants for your family, stop intervening with science. pray. talk about it with each other. adopt. give birth. God will let you know what He wants for you if you step back and stop trying to control the situation.</p>
<p>I hope this helps. Either way, children will rock your world. Get ready to laugh and cry a LOT!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Something lighter by PS26</title>
		<link>http://www.fraggedformysins.com/2008/10/24/something-lighter/#comment-33272</link>
		<dc:creator>PS26</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>c is for cookie, that's good enough for me.

ps- i found some amazing pre-packaged chocolate chip cookies in cairo. amazing. i thought it would be impossible, yet within 2 months i found them. and just to clarify, they are of the "crunchy" variety, not "soft"...soft would definitely be impossible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>c is for cookie, that&#8217;s good enough for me.</p>
<p>ps- i found some amazing pre-packaged chocolate chip cookies in cairo. amazing. i thought it would be impossible, yet within 2 months i found them. and just to clarify, they are of the &#8220;crunchy&#8221; variety, not &#8220;soft&#8221;&#8230;soft would definitely be impossible.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Something lighter by jduv</title>
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		<dc:creator>jduv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 00:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Abortion Part Two - A Call to Believers by Alice Trammell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alice Trammell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 05:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric,
Well stated, my little brother.  My retired bookkeeper spent 5 years working with pregnant women who did not want their babies.  I don't know the success of their Christian organization, but you should make contact with her and talk.  I will send you her phone number through your email address.  I sent the abortion video out yesterday, not reading your blog until today.  It's interesting that the Lord is putting the same thing on the hearts of the church.  The Lord will show us what to do and by His grace, we will follow through.
I love you, my brother.
Alice</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric,<br />
Well stated, my little brother.  My retired bookkeeper spent 5 years working with pregnant women who did not want their babies.  I don&#8217;t know the success of their Christian organization, but you should make contact with her and talk.  I will send you her phone number through your email address.  I sent the abortion video out yesterday, not reading your blog until today.  It&#8217;s interesting that the Lord is putting the same thing on the hearts of the church.  The Lord will show us what to do and by His grace, we will follow through.<br />
I love you, my brother.<br />
Alice</p>
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		<title>Comment on My Struggle With Adoption, Havin my Own, and Zeal by PS26</title>
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		<dc:creator>PS26</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 07:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i just have to say that even hearing a discussion on this subject brings a smile to my face because i always believe that the first step in the right direction towards change and making a difference is talking about it aloud and sharing that conversation with many others! i believe God is moving in hearts. 

i also know that there are many before our generation that have had the same heart - one obvious and "semi-famous" example is Mark Richt (UGA football coach)...you can read about his story and how his sunday school class started conversations that led to real action...many of them adopting children in need of parents. 

i pray that we will all just be open to what His calling for us may be. if we listen, he is answering. that's what i believe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i just have to say that even hearing a discussion on this subject brings a smile to my face because i always believe that the first step in the right direction towards change and making a difference is talking about it aloud and sharing that conversation with many others! i believe God is moving in hearts. </p>
<p>i also know that there are many before our generation that have had the same heart - one obvious and &#8220;semi-famous&#8221; example is Mark Richt (UGA football coach)&#8230;you can read about his story and how his sunday school class started conversations that led to real action&#8230;many of them adopting children in need of parents. </p>
<p>i pray that we will all just be open to what His calling for us may be. if we listen, he is answering. that&#8217;s what i believe.</p>
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		<title>Comment on My Struggle With Adoption, Havin my Own, and Zeal by Kimberly</title>
		<link>http://www.fraggedformysins.com/2008/10/19/my-struggle-with-adoption-havin-my-own-and-zeal/#comment-32066</link>
		<dc:creator>Kimberly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 01:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That whole discussion about whether it is selfish to have biological children in light of the great need there are for homes for children already here...well, that is exactly, exactly, exactly what I have struggled with and struggled to communicate to others.  Needless to say, I have botched the delivery several times and turned people off to my cause in the process and have since abandoned the effort to encourage others to consider adoption as well for fear of misrepresenting what is so near and dear to my heart.  We have found that simply sharing our own story/our own hearts about adoption with whomever the Lord puts in our path who want to know more has really made all the difference that my zeal would prefer to shout from the rooftops to church today.  

I have read a good book that you would appreciate about adoption and the church...check it out...it is a quick read... Fields of the Fatherless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That whole discussion about whether it is selfish to have biological children in light of the great need there are for homes for children already here&#8230;well, that is exactly, exactly, exactly what I have struggled with and struggled to communicate to others.  Needless to say, I have botched the delivery several times and turned people off to my cause in the process and have since abandoned the effort to encourage others to consider adoption as well for fear of misrepresenting what is so near and dear to my heart.  We have found that simply sharing our own story/our own hearts about adoption with whomever the Lord puts in our path who want to know more has really made all the difference that my zeal would prefer to shout from the rooftops to church today.  </p>
<p>I have read a good book that you would appreciate about adoption and the church&#8230;check it out&#8230;it is a quick read&#8230; Fields of the Fatherless.</p>
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		<title>Comment on My Struggle With Adoption, Havin my Own, and Zeal by JB1</title>
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		<dc:creator>JB1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 19:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand your feelings completely.  I struggled (and still do) with the same thoughts given my heart's leading to adoption.  Choosing to build my family by adopting first in response to God's call has been a great opportunity to share Christ and our calling to adoption with others.  Choosing recently to have a biological child was a decision that we really wrestled with, but has surprisingly strengthened our desire for future adoptions.  It has also given us personal experience to share with others that have fear surrounding adoption in comparison to the traditional route of having biological children.  

I don't think that your feelings of selfishness in response to having biological children is anything abnormal, but perhaps an early confirmation of the calling on your heart.  The tricky part I found (and as evidenced by your disclaimer) is sharing that calling with others with the larger purpose of pointing to Christ without placing the calling (or guilt trip) on the listener. 

I say just be faithful to the call by exploring the opportunities available and ask God for encounters to humbly share your heart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand your feelings completely.  I struggled (and still do) with the same thoughts given my heart&#8217;s leading to adoption.  Choosing to build my family by adopting first in response to God&#8217;s call has been a great opportunity to share Christ and our calling to adoption with others.  Choosing recently to have a biological child was a decision that we really wrestled with, but has surprisingly strengthened our desire for future adoptions.  It has also given us personal experience to share with others that have fear surrounding adoption in comparison to the traditional route of having biological children.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that your feelings of selfishness in response to having biological children is anything abnormal, but perhaps an early confirmation of the calling on your heart.  The tricky part I found (and as evidenced by your disclaimer) is sharing that calling with others with the larger purpose of pointing to Christ without placing the calling (or guilt trip) on the listener. </p>
<p>I say just be faithful to the call by exploring the opportunities available and ask God for encounters to humbly share your heart.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Abortion Part Two - A Call to Believers by the wife</title>
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		<dc:creator>the wife</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 02:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AMEN!!!  Let's get started!</description>
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		<title>Comment on My weekend, or, a treatise on manly activities by ritmatt</title>
		<link>http://www.fraggedformysins.com/2008/09/21/my-weekend-or-a-treatise-on-manly-activities/#comment-31624</link>
		<dc:creator>ritmatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 08:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Part of the trouble with splitting that piece of wood is that your BIL is using an ax (designed to cut down trees) when what he needs is a wood maul (designed to split wood). The difference is the width of the ax head. The wood maul's head is wedge shaped and makes splitting way easier. [end of ax rant]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Part of the trouble with splitting that piece of wood is that your BIL is using an ax (designed to cut down trees) when what he needs is a wood maul (designed to split wood). The difference is the width of the ax head. The wood maul&#8217;s head is wedge shaped and makes splitting way easier. [end of ax rant]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Abortion Part Two - A Call to Believers by saji joseph</title>
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		<dc:creator>saji joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 05:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is absolutely true that the "issue" of abortion goes far beyond the reaches of any political agenda or social morality, it stretches into the heart of God. Into life and death.    I pray we understand this issue with our eyes wide open, seeing into reality.  
Your right eric, this is not only about the rejection of a baby, but it starts with the rejection of a hurting mother.  Rejection from fathers, boyfriends, mothers etc has brought many into the rejection of their own babes.  The fruit of their wombs.  May the Lord bring these woman out of darkness and into His marvelous light...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is absolutely true that the &#8220;issue&#8221; of abortion goes far beyond the reaches of any political agenda or social morality, it stretches into the heart of God. Into life and death.    I pray we understand this issue with our eyes wide open, seeing into reality.<br />
Your right eric, this is not only about the rejection of a baby, but it starts with the rejection of a hurting mother.  Rejection from fathers, boyfriends, mothers etc has brought many into the rejection of their own babes.  The fruit of their wombs.  May the Lord bring these woman out of darkness and into His marvelous light&#8230;</p>
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